Very good info! I would never have thought to see how different tires would handle different types of paved surfaces.
Photography by Timothy Harper
The single question most serious autocrossers want answered: Which tire will be fastest on concrete?
Sure, 80% of autocross events around the country take place on asphalt, but the Big Show–the Tire Rack SCCA Solo National Championships–runs on the concrete expanse found at Nebraska’s Lincoln Airpark.
And that unique surface makes a difference in how a tire operates. Concrete autocross sites, though, …
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Very good info! I would never have thought to see how different tires would handle different types of paved surfaces.
Austin Cannon said:Very good info! I would never have thought to see how different tires would handle different types of paved surfaces.
It's not just for autocross, either.
There are two basic types of race track asphalt. One uses the traditional oil/tar-based binder, while the latest and greatest is a polymer-based binder -- think epoxy. Goes down hot, cools and is ready to go with little curing needed.
The polymer stuff tends to not polish as quickly and also favors adhesive-grip tires like slicks and r-comps. So the delta between those and street tires is larger at those tracks. COTA, Watkins Glen and Eagles Canyon are examples.
Reminds me to review BST before the season begins; still working on trail braking. Man the ND Miata looks great.
Good test, and the X1 result is pretty encouraging.
One important point is that in our own testing and as stated in the article, the Vitour clearly wants different setup than A052, and this is an A052 optimized setup.
We consistently see the P1/X1 work better with significantly more shock and significantly less camber, and that makes a real difference in times.
So with the car set up around 4° front camber, which is much more in line with what the A052 tends to want, where we usually see the P1 wanting at least half a degree if not more less, the fact that the X1 was still right there in the mix is notable.
If the X1 is in the mix in a clearly unoptimized setup, it would be very interesting to see what it does with a setup adjusted more toward what the tire actually prefers.
Thanks, guys. This is great stuff. Helps to answer one of my questions for the year. Now let’s do the same thing with some bigger tires on bigger cars!
Thanks for the testing, Andy - great to see more data. We're super happy with the initial performance of the RZ in competition and are really looking forward to seeing how people learn to optimize around what it can deliver across different disciplines.
In reply to dallasreed :
I too would like to see this test. However a tire that is fast without setup changes has some advantages. I think most of us have a couple sets of tires we may like to run at different sites/conditions.
I still think this is a great result, and I can't wait to give them a go after our current set of RZ's to see how they compare on our somewhat camber limited platform!
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